Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M

Posted by: pv88

Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/11/13 02:45 AM

Now looking to find a Clavinova CLP-990 (discontinued model) in fairly nice condition as it dates from 2001 originally making it 12 years old.*

Would be mainly concerned with the keys, action, pedals, and, buttons (or, electronics) to all be working correctly, as the condition of the cabinet finish is not as important. It is available in either rosewood or mahogany.

1) Rosewood:

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-i...990/?mode=model

2) Mahogany:

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-i...90m/?mode=model

*Extra note:

CLP-990M has been found and purchased - see posts below.
Posted by: Orz

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/11/13 10:34 AM

My next door is selling a 2002 DGT2 for $2000, I don't know if it's better or not though. After some research on the forum it seems both of them have the "real grand" action...
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/12/13 10:03 AM

1) Here is an excellent thread which has some pictures of the keys and action inside the CLP-990:

Yamaha flagship Clavinova CLP-990's Natural Keyboard Action

2) This is the unique front facing speaker setup which has 120 watts output:

CLP-990's speakers

3) And, here is a short demo of the hammer action itself in motion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D62G49_Rws

Also, note the solid spruce wooden keys.

And, escapement is demonstrated.

192 notes of polyphony.
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/13/13 06:02 PM

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Posted by: kapelli

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/13/13 06:26 PM

sometimes you can see them in france on http://www.leboncoin.fr
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/14/13 12:35 AM

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Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/14/13 12:52 AM

pv88, I recommend trying Google Translate.

James
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Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/14/13 01:05 AM

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Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/14/13 02:19 AM

Why not just buy an AvantGrand?

James
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Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/14/13 02:38 AM

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Posted by: theJourney

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/14/13 03:46 AM

Originally Posted By: pv88
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Why not just buy an AvantGrand?

James
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That's a good question, although since I own a V-Piano and a Kawai CA95, there's no need for an AG in my opinion, since I enjoy them enough for now as very good acoustic piano substitutes.

To clarify, I am not looking for a bigger, better, newer piano, as I now want to own at least one classic vintage style relic, just like some people collect old antique furniture, etc.

This is not about improving what I already have, it's just finding that one-of-a-kind unique instrument.


You need help.
crazy
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/14/13 04:14 AM

Okay, then there are others in this forum just like me as I know of some folks who own very old vintage stuff (back to the 80's for example) and they would never think of selling any of it due to its collectible value.

How about the V-Piano, in which I plan to keep forever, as it is currently among Roland's first attempts with getting the many modeling features right. However, 20 years from now it may very well be considered a real relic, something from the digital stone age.

The CLP-990 was Yamaha's best effort at a decent grand-like action (with solid wooden keys and 192 note polyphony) and it was the best model available in 2001. It's specs rival (or, are better than) any current Clavinova.

Anything with true sentimental value is only important to the person who owns and values that item.
Posted by: theJourney

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/14/13 04:53 AM

Well, I do admit not being able to throw away my Osborne 1 portable computer...
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/14/13 08:00 PM

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Posted by: ando

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/14/13 09:11 PM

Originally Posted By: pv88
Does anyone else know as to where a CLP-990 might be found, in the USA?


Richard, have you ever actually played one of these things? I think you will find that it is not the "retro" experience you imagine it to be. It isn't old enough to have any particularly different tone to what is common nowadays. The action is not significantly different in feel to other Yamaha actions. Like the other current Yamaha DP actions, it's an action that works, has reasonable weighting and feel, but falls short of the nuances of the AG action.

I'm just not getting your attraction to this piano - especially given the fact that you already have more evolved actions in your Roland V and Kawai CA95. I think the Yamaha will suffer by comparison and also have none of that retro character that older electronic instruments have. Soundwise, the CLP-990 is not all that different to their current DPs. So what's the point? If you have played one and fell in love with it, I could understand that, but if this is just some sort of DP wanderlust based on reading posts on PW, I think you'll be disappointed. Then again, it's your money and time, so there's no actual harm being done.
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/14/13 09:41 PM

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Posted by: Orz

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/15/13 10:05 AM

Im still wondering, is CLP-990 better then the DGT2? Seems like no one knows...
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/15/13 04:14 PM

@Orz,

To try and answer your question, I would say that the DGT2 might have a slightly better sound system with its speakers as this would have to be a subjective comparison as for the feel of the action, the sounds, for the player.

If you are looking at just the specs, then the DGT2 has only 64 note polyphony which may not be enough to prevent notes from dropping out. The CLP-990 has 192 note polyphony. I always look for at least 128 polyphony, minimum.

Once again you will need to play the digital in question to know for sure.
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/15/13 04:20 PM

Does anyone else know as to where to look for a CLP-990, in the USA?
Posted by: ando

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/15/13 11:39 PM

Originally Posted By: pv88
Does anyone else know as to where to look for a CLP-990, in the USA?


These types of ads never look trustworthy, but you could look into it:

http://for-sale.yakaz.com/clavinova-piano-for-sale#lo=4&docid=000en3og46aibh18
Posted by: personne

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/15/13 11:52 PM

Originally Posted By: pv88
[url=http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2036302/Yamaha%20flagship%20Clavinova%20CLP-.html#Post2036302]2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D62G49_Rws


That is a lovely sound smile
But the look is not much different from the modern Clavinovas.
You can buy CLP-430 instead and wait till it gets old ha (in case you cannot find 990, I am just teasing).
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/16/13 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By: ando
These types of ads never look trustworthy, but you could look into it:
http://for-sale.yakaz.com/clavinova-piano-for-sale#lo=4&docid=000en3og46aibh18


The ad above is no longer valid.
Posted by: NYC Piano

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/16/13 01:42 AM


FEAR NOT! I am willing to sell our Clavinova CLP 990.

I have details. . .name your price! We purchased for $5,000 including shipping when they came out.
Posted by: ando

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/16/13 02:34 AM

I smell a very inflated sale price in the air...
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/16/13 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By: NYC Piano

FEAR NOT! I am willing to sell our Clavinova CLP 990.

I have details. . .name your price! We purchased for $5,000 including shipping when they came out.


@NYC Piano,

Please check your PM for further info.
Posted by: adak

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/26/13 06:12 PM

here is something you might like: the Yamaha CLP880

http://jordankitts.com/used/196

$1499
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/26/13 07:56 PM

@adak,

Thanks for the link above as it looks like a nice piano.

Extra note:

Have already purchased a CLP-990M as I am now making the arrangements for shipping at this time. Will post additional details, later.
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/26/13 08:00 PM

Congrats pv88 - it looks like your perseverance eventually paid off!

James
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Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/26/13 08:35 PM

@James,

Thanks, as I am not sure as to how long ago I started the search although I really didn't have any leads for a prospective seller until I received word here in the forum. So, it proves that it is a good thing to be a PW member.
Posted by: adak

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/27/13 07:22 PM

post pics when it arrives
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/27/13 07:43 PM

Here are a few photos as I can post the ones sent from the seller:

1) http://imgur.com/MXtGClC
2) http://imgur.com/qmw19qu
3) http://imgur.com/2wUPZS6
4) http://imgur.com/96qE9hw
5) http://imgur.com/HaPQTrU

I was very happy to be getting the mahogany finish model CLP-990M, as it has a distinguished appearance and the cabinet is in very nice condition.

And, note the interesting gray-colored speaker grill in picture # 4 as the speakers are front facing which is unique for a digital piano.

The matching bench and manuals are included, also.
Posted by: peterws

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 03/28/13 05:58 PM

Lovely looker. The speakers need moving downstairs and the music stand . . . .Can you stand it? Otherwise perfect. AND it`s got a sloping front!
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 04/05/13 03:15 PM

Have just received the complete "Service Manual" for the CLP-990/CLP990M which comprises 7 PDF's including schematics for the circuits. There are some very interesting illustrations and graphics for all of the parts in the piano as well as keyboard maintenance/regulation tips.

Here are the keys and action parts in four pages - first two images are the graphics and the next two are the names/specs of the parts.

Note as to how the weights of the keys are given in the 3rd image:

1) http://imgur.com/r0X44wq
2) http://imgur.com/t08nwOs
3) http://imgur.com/IdKE2IH
4) http://imgur.com/Em6eh0N

Here is the "keyboard adjustment" section in five pages:

1) http://imgur.com/ABKmmMf
2) http://imgur.com/j3LjFxW
3) http://imgur.com/pb8k7nx
4) http://imgur.com/4zxtRPj
5) http://imgur.com/u392oXS

Any service tech shouldn't have any problems in doing routine adjustments with these detailed instructions.

The solid spruce wood keys with the hammer action and escapement make this a very unique digital.
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 04/05/13 07:20 PM

Interesting stuff. This looks very similar to the Kawai wooden-key actions (and service manuals).

By the way, have you received your CLP-990 yet? I'm sure many here would be interested to hear your opinions compared to the Roland and Kawai instruments that you currently own.

Cheers,
James
x
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 04/05/13 10:56 PM

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Posted by: Kona_V-Piano

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 04/07/13 12:23 PM

I've owned my CLP990 for over 10 years now and have to say it still works like new and has not needed any work on it done after all these years and lots of playing. You'll definately enjoy the uniqueness of it and wonder why Yamaha abandoned clearly superior technology all those years later when they could have kept on enhancing this technology making it even better.
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 04/07/13 03:38 PM

@Kona,

Yes, it appears that the CLP-990 was far ahead of its time in 2001 and still has specs to match (or, are better than) many digitals, today.

Extra note:

I do plan on making a recording with the default "Grand Piano 1" preset after the piano has arrived.
Posted by: MacMacMac

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 04/07/13 04:46 PM

pv88: Might I impose upon you to offer up photos of your piano studio. I've lost count of the pianos you own, but I'm sure it's more than that of ANY individual I've ever known. Can we have a look??
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 04/07/13 05:05 PM

I plan on having a "flagship" model from each of the major brands, i.e., Roland, Kawai, Yamaha, as the last digital will be the Clavinova CLP-990M.

1) Roland V-Piano
2) Kawai CA95
3) CLP-990M

My fourth digital is the Kawai EP3.

Three flagships, and, the above.
Posted by: MacMacMac

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 04/07/13 05:24 PM

Envy!

Good point about the CLP900 regarding its flagship status. I've not had the pleasure of playing one. But everything I've read suggests that, despite its age, it's as good or better than any of the newer Clavinovas.
Posted by: pianoworldanon

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990 - 04/07/13 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: pv88
@MacMacMac,

As I now have a new Polaroid camera I can take a few pictures after the Clavinova CLP-990M arrives. I didn't intend to take shots of my other digitals as there are only four that I now own, in all:

1) Roland V-Piano
2) Kawai CA95
3) CLP-990M
4) Kawai EP3

I plan to have a "flagship" model from each of the major brands, i.e., Roland, Kawai, Yamaha, as the last digital (or, EP3) is just a portable stage piano with standard plastic keys and a two-sensor action, nothing special.

Also, I could never own more than three (3) flagship models due to lack of space in my small studio room. Two of the three models have upright cabinets and along with the V-Piano they do not take up as much space as a real grand piano, or, an AvantGrand, which I do not want. The V-Piano and CA95 are along one wall side-to-side, whereas the CLP-990M will be on the opposite wall with a futon bed in the middle. The smaller EP3 will be moved out into the kitchen area to make room for the CLP-990 that is going to take its place. After the CLP-990 arrives that's it, as I am not buying any other digitals. I might consider trading up on either the V-Piano or CA95 later should a better model come along, otherwise I am keeping them.

Hope this helps to clarify things a bit.


PV88, thanks for posting this. I've learned something today and I'm keeping my eyes on this thread and your evaluation of the clp-990M to your flag ships smile

Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 04/20/13 06:30 PM

Originally Posted By: MacMacMac
Good point about the CLP900 regarding its flagship status. I've not had the pleasure of playing one. But everything I've read suggests that, despite its age, it's as good or better than any of the newer Clavinovas.


Yes, that is absolutely true!
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 04/23/13 06:30 PM

Update:

After a long wait for the shipping/delivery the piano has arrived. Details below:
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 05/03/13 08:35 PM

New photo* of CLP-990M:

The CLP-990M has arrived with its own matching bench and I have added the new green desk lamp on top. The three books (in the photo) that were included, left to right:

1) Yamaha Music Soft Catalog - 2002
2) Owner's Manual
3) Reference Booklet

http://imgur.com/umyDQyU

Also, will be making a recording to demonstrate the excellent "Grand Piano 1" default preset, shortly.

*Extra note:

As for the quality of the picture I took (with a Polaroid instant camera) please disregard the small white specks on the bench and piano which are not debris or paper but just specks of dust/scratches on the photo itself and scanner screen. Otherwise, the piano would have been spotless!

Have also added a few extra details in the "Prices Paid" thread:

Digital Piano "Prices Paid"
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 05/03/13 09:22 PM

Congrats Richard!

I hope it's worth the wait and expense.

By the way, I love the 70's look of that photo...;)

James
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Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 05/03/13 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Congrats Richard!

I hope it's worth the wait and expense.

By the way, I love the 70's look of that photo...;)

James
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Thanks James,

Yes, it did take a while in which to ship, however, all of the sounds are very realistic and the action appears to be excellent.

I have just confirmed the very subtle feel of the escapement simulation in the CLP-990M which has a very slight resistance, perhaps far less obvious when comparing it to the CA95.

And, here is the first new recording:

Premier recording - CLP-990M
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/31/14 02:34 PM

@Kawai James,

I thought you might want to know (along with everyone else) that I had some minor adjustments made to two keys that were sticking on my Clavinova CLP-990M (now 13 yrs. old) and both keys were freed up using a simple clamping tool which widens the hole in the wooden key where it sits upon the pivot pin in the key bed - same adjustment is used for acoustic piano keys.

Happen to have a local technician that has worked on Clavinova's over the years and knows a lot about digital piano repair. The key in getting repairs done correctly is knowing someone that has experience.
Posted by: peterws

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/31/14 03:47 PM

"and both keys were freed up using a simple clamping tool which widens the hole in the wooden key where it sits upon the pivot pin in the key bed . "

I suppose a mini-file wouldn't suffice? Like you`d use for modeling . .? Can NOBODY do anything for themselves these days?
Posted by: toddy

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/31/14 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: peterws
Can NOBODY do anything for themselves these days?


Isn't it the other way round? There is that nice quote from Uncle Mort:

"I don't believe in do-it-yourself, me........I'd rather get a man in to botch it up professional like."
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/31/14 04:18 PM

Originally Posted By: peterws
I suppose a mini-file wouldn't suffice? Like you`d use for modeling . .? Can NOBODY do anything for themselves these days?


@peterws,

The repair the technician did was not that easy when you consider he had to take quite a few things apart just to get at the key bed to do the adjustments. I wasn't going to take a chance with messing something up when the sliding keyboard cover and main control panel had to be removed before one can remove the individual keys.

If you want something done half-a**ed then do it yourself, otherwise there are real techs that know how to fix stuff the right way.
Posted by: peterws

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/31/14 06:00 PM

You know, PV, on a grand piano, the keybed is so easy to detach; a few large wood screws, and away it comes. But it`s so much fun to take these things apart, I think I`d have given it a go. It`s just what some fellas like to do. grin

You only have to look at those Nekkid pictures of Dewsters to know that. Even new stuff isn`t sacrosanct!
Posted by: MacMacMac

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 03/31/14 06:12 PM

You're right, pv. The tech "eased" the key bushing using a special tool made for just that purpose ... one that only a piano tech would have.

You would NEVER use a file there. The crevasse in the key is lined with bushing felt, not meant to be filed.
Posted by: pianelmo

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 11/16/14 10:25 AM

I know these are in hot demand, so I'm posting a link to my advert here.

I'm selling my CLP 990M (very reluctantly) on eBay with no reserve. Contact me if you are interested in playing before bidding.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Yamaha-Cl...-/301396796057?
Posted by: pv88

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-990M - 11/16/14 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: pianelmo
I know these are in hot demand, so I'm posting a link to my advert here.

I'm selling my CLP 990M (very reluctantly) on eBay with no reserve. Contact me if you are interested in playing before bidding.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Yamaha-Cl...-/301396796057?


@pianelmo,

Recommend listing the cabinet finish:

In your eBay listing you might want to list and describe the style of cabinet (i.e, Rosewood / Mahogany) of your piano.

The CLP-990 was available in two finishes originally, Rosewood or Mahogany, and I was very fortunate to have found a seller that owned the Mahogany which is considered to be the rarer of the two that were available. The Rosewood has a darker hue whereas Mahogany is somewhat lighter in appearance with a slight reddish tint to the grain.

Good luck with your sale!