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#334381 - 01/23/06 10:11 AM How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
Nothing impossible Offline
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Registered: 01/16/06
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Loc: Washington
Since my polished ebony Kawai K-25 arrived last week, I has constantly cleaned my kids' finger prints from the piano. Although I use the yellow soft cloth provided with the piano, the soft cloth still leaves small scratches on the piano. I'm afraid that these small scratches will eventually make the piano dull.
Could you please help me with the best way to clean finger prints with the least damages to the piano?
Thank you very much,
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#334382 - 01/23/06 10:17 AM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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The cloth should not leave scratches. Polished ebony surfaces will appear to have very fine "scratch" lines in it depending on how intensely the light is shining on the surface (they often appear circular on mine). But if you are using a microfiber cloth or something as simple as a clean cotton cloth (like me), the act of gently cleaning the dust and fingerprints shouldn't damage the piano by leaving meaningful (as opposed to microscopic) scratches. Your dealer should also have provided you with a polishing product of some sort that you can apply once in a while.
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#334383 - 01/23/06 10:34 AM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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You can fight a losing battle with fingerprints or go the graceful surrender route. The first two weeks I had my piano I cleaned off fingerprints every day. Then I gave up. The funny thing is that it didn't make much of a difference in how it looks. I tend to have a few fingerprints all in the same places, from raising and lowering the lid, so cleaning or not cleaning has very little effect on the appearance of the piano.

The piano is to be played and enjoyed. Display your fingerprints with pride and devote the time you would have spent cleaning the darned thing to playing on it instead. \:\)
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#334384 - 01/23/06 12:22 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Damp wipes designed for furniture - the sort that come in sealed packets. Takes almost no time and works really well. Adrian
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#334385 - 01/23/06 01:04 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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A high quality microfiber towel can be used dry to remove the oil of a handprint.

Dust the whole piano very gently before you try to wipe off prints. Dust is abrasive and if you rub hard on a dusty piano you will make tiny scratches. One trick that car detailers use is to always wipe or rub in that same direction. That makes any fine scratches that you do make line up in the same direction which makes them nearly invisible.

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#334386 - 01/23/06 06:51 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Registered: 06/07/05
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Loc: New Jersey
Steve, you can take it one step further. Wipe in one direction following the way you look at the piano. Microscratches will happen, even with microfiber. You want to look down the long axis of the microscratches, not accross them. It's easiest to think about this using the automobile as a guide. When looking at the car from the front you look from the bumper to the windshield - that is the way you want to wipe the car down. On the sides you want to wipe up and down on the doors, not back and forth.

Therefore, when dusting the sides of the piano, use a vertical wiping motion. The top depends on the orientation within the room and the position of the light source.
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#334387 - 01/24/06 01:33 AM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Registered: 11/12/03
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Originally posted by Monica Kern:

The piano is to be played and enjoyed. Display your fingerprints with pride and devote the time you would have spent cleaning the darned thing to playing on it instead. \:\) [/b]
I love my piano, and always clean fingerprints when I am done, which is mostly in the evening. This my way to say "good night" to my piano.
I don't use the polishing stuff very often, just use soft flannel rag that has no rough edges. I wash it often though since the dust that collects in the rag can contribute to the scratches.

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#334388 - 01/24/06 09:03 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
CHAS Offline
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Registered: 11/25/03
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Dampen cheese cloth, let it dry a bit. Wipe in one direction. Make cur ethe cloth is always clean.
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#334389 - 01/24/06 10:56 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Registered: 05/05/03
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Loc: Chicago, Illinois
The manufacturer of my piano, which has a polished ebony finish, recommends liquid dish soap.

I use a large cloth, dampen most of it, then put one drop of something like SunLight on one portion of the cloth. I gently wash the fingerprint or other oily mark away, use another damp portion of the cloth to "rinse," then use a dry portion to dry it. Of course, you can use a separate dry cloth, but I'm lazy.

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#334390 - 01/24/06 11:00 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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I reccomended this in the past. The best method for cleaning oily finger prints and grime off of a gloss poly finish is to mix 1 tablespoon of white vinegar into 1 cup of warm water. Lightly wet a soft cloth with the solution and lightly wipe the surface to be cleaned. It also helps eliminate dust build up.
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#334391 - 01/25/06 12:35 AM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
Nothing impossible Offline
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Registered: 01/16/06
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Loc: Washington
Thank you very much for the wonderful and helpful tips. Yes, I don't wipe off my own fingerprints to open or close the piano but I really need to wipe off the fingerprints of my 2 1/2 year old. I cannot believe that his fingers are so oily.

Again, thank you very much, everybody.
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#334392 - 01/25/06 06:03 AM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Interesting recommendations.

My answer is to avoid the fingerprints. I keep a cloth by the piano and I use it to open and close the lid and the fallboard. So the only time the piano gets fingerprints is if people come over.


I dust my piano with a 'california duster' designed for cars. It removes the dust instead of spreading it. And its huge so it takes 10 seconds to dust the piano. (thanks Derek)

And when I do need to clean it, I use a clean microfibre cloth, alone, with no cleaner. But in the future I might try Curry's suggestion.
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#334393 - 01/25/06 03:02 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Registered: 10/13/05
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Loc: New York
You're welcome Jon. Did you see my latest "piano cleaner" tool? A rechargable leaf blower to clean off the dust from the soundboard and to get rid of the dust that settles on the plate under the overstrung bass strings. It works *really* well. Piano is cleaner than the day I got it.

Some people had concerns about damaging the piano if the force was too great. I showed it to my tech and he thought it was great. He did say, as a tech on this board said, to be careful around the dampers and not to use it on the keys. Other than that, he said he was going to get one.


To answer the original poster, everyone has their methods. I've never tried Curry's as I never have vinegar in the house! But, in addition to that, I "wax" my piano with automotive wax. It adds even more shine to the finish. On the rare events someone touches/plays my piano, it is inevitable that they will get finger prints all over it. I break out the auto wax and wipe with a microfiber cloth.

Derick
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#334394 - 01/25/06 04:12 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Registered: 06/07/05
Posts: 163
Loc: New Jersey
Derick, have you tried the Souveran wax by Pinnacle? For black cars it is by far the best I've used. I'm sure it would be amazing on the piano. That's what I plan to use.
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#334395 - 01/25/06 04:29 PM Re: How to clean the finger prints from the polished ebony piano?
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Loc: New York
My current favorite is Eagle One Tech Wax primarily because it goes on and comes off very easily with almost no dust.

I have so much car crap I probably could have bought 2 Bosendorfers if I put the money I spent on waxes towards a second piano. I do have something by Pinnacle - I bought it when I had too much to drink one night I think. It was $75. Maybe it's Souveran?

Well enjoy your piano when you finally do get it. Waxing a piano is a hell of a lot more fun than waxing a car.

Derick
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