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#99313 - 09/09/06 02:52 AM bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
rsilvamadriz Offline
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Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 8
Hi There

I'm new. Also new on music and new on pianos. But like everyone I want to get the best! Would getting the Bohemia be any bit close to getting the Schimmel?

I must be on my second midlife crisis trying to become a musician at 55. Meanwhile I might get my 8yr old interested as well.

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#99314 - 09/09/06 09:08 AM Re: bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
piannaman Offline
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Registered: 05/05/04
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Bohemia is a small Czech company, while Schimmel is one of the larger, if not the largest piano factory in Germany.

That said, I prefer the Bohemia. My experience with Schimmels is limited, though. I've seen a tendency towards a very hard, harsh sound in some of the Schimmel uprights I've worked on, but I don't believe I've done anything with a 130t. The Bohemia 132 has a very full, rich tone which is pleasing to my ear.

Either piano will do well for you.
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#99315 - 09/09/06 09:27 AM Re: bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
JD Offline
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Registered: 08/02/03
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The Schimmel and the Bohemia are both quality verticles in their own right. I don't think you could go wrong either way.

To my ear and hands, I prefer the tone and touch of the Bohemia 132, even though I believe it is still several thousand dollars less than the Schimmel.

In your post you mentioned you "want to get the best." If you like the Bohemia and you want to go to a whole new level, check out http://www.fandrich.com Darrell Fandrich has recently started putting The Fandrich Vertical ActionTM into the 50" & 52" Bohemia.

I have the Fandrich action in an older version of an F&S upright using the 50" Klima piano and I am very pleased with it. However, I'm told that the Fandrich Action in the big Bohemia makes for a pretty amazing instrument and, I believe, it is still less money than the Schimmel.

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#99316 - 09/09/06 09:45 AM Re: bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
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Registered: 10/04/03
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I would suggest you also take a good look at the Kawai K series 6 and 8. You should also take a good look at the Yamaha U3 and U5. I have corresponded off forum with several people who love their U5s but I have yet to find one to play. I like Schimmel and it is on my short list, Schimmel also makes a less expensive model, the Vogel which is very nice for the money. The Vogel is also on my short list considering the value offered. If I were on the west coast as is JD I would certainly take at look at the Fandrich, they have a very strong following.
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#99317 - 09/09/06 11:21 AM Re: bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
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That said, I prefer the Bohemia.
Which would normally *settle* the case.

Norbert \:\)
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#99318 - 09/09/06 11:44 PM Re: bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
rsilvamadriz Offline
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Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 8
Thanks for all the recommendations. I probably will go with the Bohemia as it seems to be a bargain.

Another question should it matter that I have a small living room 15' x 13' where the upright would be going? (that is should I really be getting a smaller upright?)

Thx

Ramon

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#99319 - 09/10/06 01:07 PM Re: bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
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Registered: 05/03/06
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Loc: western Wisconsin
I'm not going to even pretend that I'm objective, but I would stroongly advise you to choose the piano you like best if you can justify the purchase price of either, as you'd likely be living with your decision for decades (or if/until you upgrade). I've never played a Bohemia, but I have played Petrof and Fandrich/Klima uprights.

Not all Bohemia 132's are identical, nor are all the Schimmel 130T's out there. What you have available to you and what those dealers are willing to do to adjust them to your satisfaction are important.
For example, I played one satisfactory Schimmel 130 and one really good one. I found one Petrof 131 that was hideously strident and another that I considered buying.

In my case, the specific Schimmel 130T I picked was the best upright piano I played (not to mention at the limit of how much money I could justify spending at the time). Just to correct a previous post, the excellent Fandrich action is only offered on the slightly smaller 49-50" Klima/Bohemia to my knowldege. I sent them an email asking if there were plans to fit their action to the 52" model, and received no reply.

p.s. I agree that you should also try the U5 Yamaha and the K60 (or whatever they call it now) Kawai, and the Petrof 131. These pianos and the Fandrich were all close to being "the one" for me.
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#99320 - 09/14/06 12:06 AM Re: bohemia 132 concerto vs Schimmel 130T
victor_ca Offline
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Registered: 06/20/06
Posts: 13
Loc: San Diego, CA
I went the the same section process. I played 2 Steinway uprights and ruled them out quickly. I was lucky enough to find a Schimmel 130 and a New Yamaha U5 that were well prepared and right next to each other. At first, I liked the U5 better. But after 2 hours, I liked the Schimmel better. The high-end of the Yamaha that at first seemed attractive and dynamic began to be grating. Nevertheless, the U5 is very well built and has the Sustenuto Pedal and great music bench. Once I had ruled out the Yamaha, I made a mental note and then tried out a Bechstein at another location. The Bechstein (very expensive) had very good action and sound and double the price. I then researched the web and found that Schimmel made a Orchestra 132DT Concert Series that was a few thousand more, but had lots of upgrades (different factory, construction, hammers, 3 way lid, hydralic fallboard). I then drove several hundred miles to play one in a store, and another at a home. The difference was quite noticable. To my ears and fingers, the Schimmel 132DT was nicer than the expesive Bechstein. I went back to my local Schimmel dealer, and pre-paid (scary) for a from the factory Schimmel 132DT (which the store did not normally stock). I've had the piano for a 3 months and 3 tunings. The Schimmel is absolutely a joy to play and listen too. I just played Rhapsody on a Them of Paganinini (Rachmaninoff) and it give me goose bumps. The Schimmel 132DT Orchestra is the "best" upright I have ever played. I would have bought a grand piano if I had the room. Further, I had buyers remorse for weeks after purchasing it...everytime I went to a store I would play the other brands revalidating my decision. If you can, read up on the DT series and see if you can find one to play. The upgrade and the couple of thousand were well worth the difference to me. The more I play it, the more happy I am with the purchase.
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