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#27160 - 01/20/07 01:18 AM Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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A few pictures from the NAMM Show 2007 in Anaheim, CA

The Entrance to the Show


Another Shot of the Entrance


Lunch on the Roof (funny, I don't remember those big mountains in the background last time).


Me, Ulrich Sauter, Larry Fine, Kathy Harl


Kirk Burgett (owner M&H), Jamie (plant manager), and the new B


Rick Clark, Cecil (national sales manager M&H), and me [in front of the B again])
Rick and his partner Joy are old friends of Piano World and the forums. In fact, Joy has the distinction of being the very first forums member I ever met in person (when I was on business in Carlsbad, CA ... one of my favorite spots in the country). Unfortunately Joy was taking the picture so she's not in it, but she is in pictures from forums parties in CA .
BTW, I played the B, I can tell you it doesn't sound like a small piano :-)



Frank "The Piano World Guy" Baxter, and Scott "The Piano Guy" Houston


Incidentally, of all the people who promised to buy me a drink, take me to lunch/dinner, etc.
Scott was the only one who came through.
Thanks Scott :-)

I really was going to buy the next round, too bad you had to go to a meeting.
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#27161 - 01/20/07 09:18 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Thanks Frank...nice job...
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#27162 - 01/20/07 09:45 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Thanks for the pics, Frank, even if it makes me envious seeing those blue, blue skies!!

[Hi, Cecil!! ;\) ]

Hope you all have a grand time!!

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#27163 - 01/20/07 09:59 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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I agree Terrytunes...what a WONDERFUL LOOKING DAY...as I gaze out at gray skies filled with SNOW
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#27164 - 01/20/07 10:15 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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PWGUY,

Love the pics! Send more.

We love to see people and pianos. Booths would be good too. ;-)
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#27165 - 01/20/07 10:37 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Great pictures!
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#27166 - 01/20/07 06:16 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Thanks for the pics! Great to put faces with names.
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#27167 - 01/20/07 07:57 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Interesting to see that tired banner that says "not open to the public." We'll see what Sunday brings. If it's anything like last year, the NAMM members will be at the airports or playing golf.
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#27168 - 01/20/07 08:39 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Originally posted by USAPianoTrucker:
Interesting to see that tired banner that says "not open to the public." We'll see what Sunday brings. If it's anything like last year, the NAMM members will be at the airports or playing golf. [/b]
I was talking to one dealer, (I believe it was Greg Durthaler from Piano Solutions in IN), and he said...

Ok, if they don't want to let the public in, how about at least organizing some tour groups from the colleges/music schools.

His thought was to attract new people to the business, and drum up a little excitement. I agree, and it probably would result in some good PR as well.
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#27169 - 01/20/07 08:52 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Great pictures, Frank!

And thanks for the (brief) review of the M&H B. Did they have an A nearby? Could you compare the two?
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#27170 - 01/20/07 09:22 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Originally posted by Monica Kern:
Great pictures, Frank!

And thanks for the (brief) review of the M&H B. Did they have an A nearby? Could you compare the two? [/b]
More pictures and stories coming after a short break. Translation, I'm having some dinner, some wine, and then going outside to smoke my pipe.

Now that you mention it Monica, inside the M&H room there was a B, next to a CC :-) Not exactly a fair comparison there now is it.

The B out in the hall (the one in the picture) has a PianoDisc installation with the videos playing. It kept attracting crowds, in part because it sounded good, and in part because the videos included cartoon characters playing (as the PianoDisc recreated it on the piano), lots of fun.
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#27171 - 01/20/07 10:07 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Hi Frank.
Joy and Rick just left.
We had lunch together gossiped piano stuff.

They told me all about Cecil's new look too.
Very cool!
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#27172 - 01/20/07 10:56 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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nice pics, Frank. Thanks.
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#27173 - 01/21/07 12:06 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Hey, no fair - you showed up in the Kawai booth at 3:00pm! Well, maybe you stopped by yesterday and I was out.
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#27174 - 01/21/07 12:10 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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 Quote:
Originally posted by KawaiDon:
Hey, no fair - you showed up in the Kawai booth at 3:00pm! Well, maybe you stopped by yesterday and I was out. [/b]
I did come by yesterday, you were busy.
I try not to get in the way of business (but I',m sorry I missed the opportunity to meet Mr. Kawai.
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#27175 - 01/21/07 12:21 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Frank,
You are a true gentleman. It was a true honor to meet you, and thank you for coming by the booth. I am going to frame the picture and put it in our hall of fame at the office.

Thanks!

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#27176 - 01/21/07 01:25 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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More picts and stuff...

Me, Indrek, and Del Fandrich


The Estonia corner (he has the most comfortable chairs). Indrek, thanks for letting Larry F. and I steal your chairs for our meeting.



Some general pictures of piano displays (to give you some idea of how many pianos are at the show).






That's forums member Dino (tall guy on the right), at the Stiegerman booth.


That's Mr. Rawlins of Rawlin's piano peeking out.


He was quite proud of this piano, essentially a recreation of the 1937 Knabe (I hope I remembered that correctly)


I'll post some more pictures and info tomorrow morning. The clock says it's only 10:20 p.m., but my brain is still on east coast time and thinks its nearly 1:30 in the morning.

Good night folks.

Oh, before I go, one more thing.

As I was standing in front of the Mason & Hamlin display this afternoon chatting with Bruce (the engineer), who should walk by ... twice ...
Stevie Wonder.
Pretty cool.
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#27177 - 01/21/07 02:24 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Thanks for the great pics...
Always wondered what it looked like. How fun seeing and trying the latest of what manufacturers have to offer. I'm jealous! Are most all piano manufacturers there? Just how big is it?
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#27178 - 01/21/07 06:01 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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I'm sure it's very big -- the anaheim convention center has a lot of space!

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#27179 - 01/21/07 06:10 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Hey Briguy!

Good to see you here. You've been away for awhile.

Hang out a little more often, will ya? \:\)
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#27180 - 01/21/07 10:38 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Originally posted by pianobuff:
Thanks for the great pics...
Always wondered what it looked like. How fun seeing and trying the latest of what manufacturers have to offer. I'm jealous! Are most all piano manufacturers there? Just how big is it? [/b]
As Briguy65 said, the Anaheim Convention center is huge. NAMM takes over all 4 floors, with displays of every imaginiable musical instrument and music related products.

Pianos are just one component.
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#27181 - 01/21/07 11:05 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Some more picts and stuff.

This is the 12' Rubenstein.
Del (Fandrich) tells me the man who built it did it because he always wanted to build a 12' piano.



Some more piano booths...


The man on the right walking by the Brodmann booth has the look we all start to get by the 3rd day.




Our friends at the PTG...


The Geneva International Booth.
They had a huge display as usual, but they were in the same area with the band and string instrument displays. I'm not sure why they set up here every year, you can barely here yourself talk.



Another Shot of Geneva.
I was going to see if I could chat with some of their folks (3 or 4 of them weren't busy when I came by). They seemed to have no interest in coming over to me.



Bluthner was right across from Geneva, in the same noisey neighborhood.

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#27182 - 01/21/07 11:49 AM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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One more picture ...

Yes, that's Larry Fine and Dino standing off to the right side of the picture.


I ran into Steve Cohen in the SMC booth, had some interesting conversations.
Steve, thanks for introducing me to the president of Samick, and to Jay Cross, Norbert and Rick Jones.

Piano Peddler it was good to meet you in person.
Speaking of the Piano Travelers Association (Piano Peddler convinced me to join a couple years ago), I ran into Wilton by the Hilton (no, this isn't leading to a joke).
Wilton is like the grand old master of the Piano Travelers. He told me this was his 57th NAMM show!

I spent a fair amount of my time at the show trying to talk with the manufacturers about advertising (on PW). Most of them seem to be receptive to the idea, particularly after I told them about my piano site rankings post ( http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/16715.html ).

Those of you groaning and rolling your eyes, feel free to send me large checks or bags of cash so I won't have to solicit advertisers.

If/when they do come on board, I will try to keep it to a minimum and unabtrusive.

About the show:
Overall I got the impression it wasn't doing as well as it did 2 years ago (the last time I attended). There just didn't seem to be the same amount of excitement and energy in the air.

Of course, that's just from my limited perspective, and feedback from a couple dealers and exhibitors.

I'm sure we'll get a better picture of it when the trade magazines report back (I'll let you know what they say).

Speaking of exhibitors, BossieEric - I tried 4 or 5 times to catch up with you but you were always busy. Luckily the attractive/pleasant young lady at the front counter also had a sense of humor.

A few of the people I spoke with indicated they didn't feel NAMM was doing enough at the grass-roots level to inspire new musicians.

I know NAMM has the new "Wanna Play?" program running now, don't know how successful it is.

There is so much competition for people's attention these days, it's more difficult to convince them of the pleasure and satisfaction you get from making your own music.

I did get comments from a number of people about how much they liked the Forums Parties idea.
As they said, it's wonderful to see people getting together to share their love of music.

For those of you who asked me about the new Mason & Hamlin B, I only played it for 2 minutes, in a crowded room. M&H promised to have one available for our tour group in May, so we should be able to get about 40 people's opinions after that :-)

It was fun to revisit old friends, and meet some new ones. The show is always interesting and I never get tired of seeing all those beautiful instruments.

I'm hoping some of our other members will post their thoughts and pictures.
I've got to go get ready for the long trek back east now, hate to leave the warm sunny climate here but it's time to head home.

Best,

Frank B.
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#27183 - 01/21/07 12:01 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Interesting about Mr. Baxter getting snubbed by Geneva. I seem to recall a very similar comment from a previous show made by a self-interested anti-Petrof relentlessly propagandizing retailer-Piano World poster called Norbert. Yet so many others have mentioned receiving a warm welcome at Geneva. Coincidence?
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#27184 - 01/21/07 12:27 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Frank- these are great updates and very interesting. Hopefully we will hear from others too and soon.

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#27185 - 01/21/07 01:07 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Originally posted by Brick:
Interesting about Mr. Baxter getting snubbed by Geneva. I seem to recall a very similar comment from a previous show made by a self-interested anti-Petrof relentlessly propagandizing retailer-Piano World poster called Norbert. Yet so many others have mentioned receiving a warm welcome at Geneva. Coincidence? [/b]
I think they are confusing posts/poster's with Piano World.
No company is immune from criticism (including PW), it just happens to be faster and more public on the Internet. Smart companies figure out how to leverage the Internet, including how to utilize sites like ours.

I've received direct emails from Geneva Intl. before, they were always polite and cordial, even if they were expressing displeasure about a post.

I think eventually manufacturers and reps will figure out Piano World is not out to get them, and that it can actually be a benefit to them (branding, advertising, communications, maybe even voluntary surveys or interactivity).

As I said earlier, some of them already get it.

Marketing on the Internet is not like any other media. The traditional channels do not usually provide for instant feedback/reaction and/or interactivitiy. Anyway, I'm starting to get off topic here. Back to the NAMM thread :-)
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#27186 - 01/21/07 02:11 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Originally posted by Piano World:
...Incidentally, of all the people who promised to buy me a drink, take me to lunch/dinner, etc.
Scott was the only one who came through...
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#27187 - 01/21/07 04:01 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Originally posted by Piano Superstore:

Frank,
You are a true gentleman. It was a true honor to meet you, and thank you for coming by the booth. I am going to frame the picture and put it in our hall of fame at the office.

Thanks!
Frank,

The post was quoted from Page 1 of this thread.
Please tell us more about your encounter with the poster and his booth. \:\)
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#27188 - 01/21/07 04:56 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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All of those beautiful pianos!!! Now where do they go? How does it work? Are the pianos auctioned or sold to dealers who label them as NAMM pianos thus advertising a discount to the public?
Who gets to go to the convention? Only dealers?
Thank again for your replies Frank and all the pictures. It is nice to put a face to a name.
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#27189 - 01/21/07 05:07 PM Re: Picts & Comments from NAMM 2007
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Any pictures of the new Grotrian 208?

Nice pictures Frank, and thanks for keeping us posted.

Cheers,

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