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#71166 - 11/01/08 12:04 PM BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
dim Offline
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Registered: 06/09/08
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Any review about that piano?

What is the difference between Boston & Essex? quality, tone, reliability, action, etc.

Which is better?
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#71167 - 11/01/08 12:38 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
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Boston is made by Kawai.

Essex is made (currently) by Pearl River.

Both are apparently made to S&S's specs.

Bob Snyder? We need your input because that is where my meager knowledge ends. \:\( \:D
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#71168 - 11/01/08 12:45 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
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#71169 - 11/01/08 03:35 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
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I believe that some of the Essex models are made by Young Chang and some by Pearl River. There is quite a price differential here in Auckland. Essex pianos are considerably cheaper than Boston.
In reply to the original post, it is primarily a matter of musical taste and you should choose the piano that you really like rather than lean too heavily on technical data.

Good luck,

Robert.

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#71170 - 11/01/08 09:37 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
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I think in the piano world it is widely acknowledged that Boston is a step higher overall than Essex (regardless of whether the Essex was made in Korea or China - although it has been my impression that the Young Chang models were better than the current Pearl River models). Over the years, Bostons have been used successfully in institutional settings - and Essex has a shorter history, and seems more geared toward being a good "home instrument." Neither instrument is equal in quality to Steinway. The fact that they are made to S&S's specifications doesn't necessarily mean that they are "assembled" to the same quality standards as Steinway. Its all a big marketing ploy. At the end you usually get what you pay for. However, depending on your musical needs - Essex or Boston can be excellent instruments.
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#71171 - 11/01/08 09:47 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
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 Quote:
Originally posted by carey:
I think in the piano world it is widely acknowledged that Boston is a step higher overall than Essex (regardless of whether the Essex was made in Korea or China - although it has been my impression that the Young Chang models were better than the current Pearl River models). Over the years, Bostons have been used successfully in institutional settings - and Essex has a shorter history, and seems more geared toward being a good "home instrument." Neither instrument is equal in quality to Steinway. The fact that they are made to S&S's specifications doesn't necessarily mean that they are "assembled" to the same quality standards as Steinway. Its all a big marketing ploy. At the end you usually get what you pay for. However, depending on your musical needs - Essex or Boston can be excellent instruments. [/b]
Good answer. I did not mean to imply that Boston or Essex are great because of S&S specs. However, I would definitely say that the Bostons (if you must have either one) will be a good bit better than the Essex models. Of course, neither one compares favorably IMHO to the S&S models.
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#71172 - 11/01/08 10:10 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
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Hi Horowitzian -

We're definitely on the same page !!!

A few years ago I contacted the folks at Steinway to find out just exactly what characteristics were shared by the Essex and Steinway pianos. I was rather surprised by the long list of specifications that they sent me. Nevertheless - there is still a marked difference between an Essex and a Steinway - including price!! The Bostons are actually very similar to the Kawai RX series - although the Larry Fine Piano Book does a good job of pointing out the unique features of each.

Best -
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#71173 - 11/01/08 10:19 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY
tanjinjack Offline
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Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 851
Loc: Malaysia
I guess you could try to search the archive and do some readings. I believe this topic has been discussed and Bob Snyder really gives a good answer regarding the comparison in his earlier posts.

Also, you can just go to Steinway website to see how much features that the Boston and Essex have when compared to the Steinway.

By all mean, I think Boston is better. You see the price then you know. Boston is by Kawai and Essex by Young Chang and Pearl River.
I have short experiences with the Steinway and the impression of the Boston to me is that it's well made but nothing surprised/impressed me.

Hope it helps.

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#1193795 - 05/05/09 01:50 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY [Re: tanjinjack]
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Registered: 01/29/07
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Loc: Houston, TX
Bostons are nice pianos. I preferred their 5'10" to Kawai and Yamaha competition at a similar price.

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#1193810 - 05/05/09 02:12 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY [Re: tjbsb]
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Registered: 11/25/06
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While I am a fan of S&S, I believe there is a material premimum in price for the Boston and Essex pianos over their Kawai and Pearl River/YC counterparts. I have yet to be convinced it is worth it. IMO the Kawai MIII action alone would trump any perceived design differences in the Boston models.
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#1194022 - 05/05/09 08:19 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY [Re: Marty Flinn]
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Registered: 03/22/09
Posts: 48
Loc: Canada
From my tech:

"Steinway = Lexus, or BMW Z-Series Roadster
Boston = Camry LE
Essex = 1988 Civic Hatchback."

What he's getting at is that you'd buy your kid a Civic for his first beater car in college, expecting him to upgrade it himself when he gets serious. Boston is a good, solid working piano, safe for daily commutes, driving your kid to soccer practice and generally really reliable. Steinway is up in the elite ranks, for connoisseurs and A-list professionals.

hmmm...guess that makes me B-list or lower smile

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#1194024 - 05/05/09 08:20 PM Re: BOSTON & ESSEX BY STEINWAY [Re: Steve B]
Steve B Offline
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Registered: 03/22/09
Posts: 48
Loc: Canada
holy cats...the original post was 7 months ago?

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