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#1103438 - 12/24/05 12:52 AM (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Okay everyone, if this does'nt work, I'm changing my user name to Mr super-Stupid!

After 4- try's and a personal spoon fed tutorial from Bob muir, I hope this will finally work.

As I said before, "stairway to heaven" is my home-made improvised version of the classic song. It was one of the very first songs that I learned when fooling around with my digital piano during my physical therapy.

"Lake erie rainfall" is a very nice Jim brickman song that is very easy to play. Both these songs are played reading extremelly easy (one finger) sheet music.

Even though it may sound a littel "fancier", listen very close as I am only expanding on the very simple basic notes and chords.

Thanks everyone for your patience! And a very special thanks to Bob Muir for all his help on a christmas eve. Thanks Bob

http://63.224.59.85/music/Stairway_to_Heaven.mp3


http://63.224.59.85/music/lake_eerie_rain.mp3

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#1103439 - 12/24/05 09:34 AM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
geek in the pink Offline
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I don't think your links are working \:\(

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#1103440 - 12/24/05 10:55 AM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
gilad Offline
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no they arent working, nearly there though.

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#1103441 - 12/24/05 10:57 AM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Geek, did you hit "save file" before you opened it? it seems to work for me that way.

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#1103442 - 12/24/05 10:58 AM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Bob Muir Offline
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The links work fine. The problem is they're not music files.

mr_super-hunky, what you did was "Save Project as" in Audacity and you uploaded the project file which doesn't include the music. What you need to do is export the music as an MP3 and upload the MP3 files. The reason the .aup files worked for you is because you have the music on your hard drive and the .aup files link to that location.

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#1103443 - 12/24/05 12:06 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
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Ditto - Bob.
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#1103444 - 12/24/05 12:35 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Thank you Bob for the advice. It seems that you not only have to upload your file on audacity and store it on savefile, but you also have to "convert" it to an mp3 via a program called "lame mp3".

This has been a very difficult task for me because I am not really computer savy, however, if you don't know how to do something, ask someone who does!!

I hope this will work now, can someone test it for me and let me know?...thanks in advance.

BTW, it this does work, for thoses of you who have not done this yet, 3-downloads needed.

1. audacity
2. savefile
3. Lame mp3

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#1103445 - 12/24/05 12:49 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Monica K. Offline

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Can somebody walk me through how to listen to super-hunky's files? When I click on the links, I get a web site with another link, "download now" that I click on...and then nothing happens. Are they working yet?
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#1103446 - 12/24/05 12:54 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Bob Muir Offline
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Nope. Still not fixed. You can try out the file yourself before you upload it to see if it works. Just open it in Windows Media Player and see if it plays. Right now it's only a 1kb file that isn't an MP3 file even though the extension is .mp3

Did you open the project and then do File->Export as MP3 in Audacity?

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#1103447 - 12/24/05 01:47 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Loc: Arizona.
Bob, can you help me?

Here's what I did

1. I downloaded Lame mp3 and opened the zip file.
2. I opened up the audacity file and exported the file as an mp3
3. Then I had an mp3 file in "my documents"
4. Then I went into savefile.com and uploaded the mp3 file into that project
5. Thats it!

What else should I do? .. I really hate being so stupid, it gets in the way of a lot of things \:\(

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#1103448 - 12/24/05 02:04 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Bob Muir Offline
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It's difficult via forum, but I'll try:

1. Open Audacity and then Edit->Preferences.

2. Click on the File Formats tab and see if LAME is installed properly. If it is, then select the bit rate you want. 96 is probably good for uploading. If it isn't, then you want to click on the "Find Library" button and point it to where you placed the "lame_enc.dll" file from the zip you downloaded.

3. When LAME is installed and you have the bit rate set, then open your project and see if it plays ok. Then select File->Export As MP3 from the menu. After saving the MP3 file, open Windows Explorer and double click on the file to see if it plays ok.

4. Upload the MP3 file.

I hope you get it figured out because I'm looking forward to hearing your tunes!

"I really hate being so stupid, it gets in the way of a lot of things"

Well, you can't be "super-hunky" AND have brains now can you? \:D

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#1103449 - 12/24/05 03:30 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Loc: Arizona.
Go back up to the main post and click the new links. After 4-"revisions", it might actually work now!!

(I'm a moron!)

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#1103450 - 12/24/05 03:36 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Monica K. Offline

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Well, whatever mental level super-hunky is at, I'm one lower, because I still can't figure out how to play his clips. I click on the link, it brings me to a page where I click on the "lake erie rainfall" link, then it brings me to a page where it says "download now," which I click on. Little green bars start showing up so I figure SOMETHING is happening. Then I get a screen that asks if I want to open it, which I do, so I click on it and....nothing happens. Do I need some kind of special player or program to play an mp3 file on my computer? Will windows media play it? If so, how do I find the clip to play it?
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#1103451 - 12/24/05 04:14 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Bob Muir Offline
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I don't think you're doing anything wrong Monica. The files won't play for me either. There must be something wrong with the links at savefile.com because it says that Stairway to Heaven is 2.11MB but when I download it, it's only 1kb.

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#1103452 - 12/24/05 04:15 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Loc: Arizona.
Sorry Monica, I just don't know what else to do!!

This sucks, I can't even figure out how to post a simple stupid music file. \:\(

I am now "officially" Mr Super-Stupid!!

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#1103453 - 12/24/05 04:17 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Bob Muir Offline
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Registered: 11/01/03
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Loc: Lakewood, WA, USA
There isn't anything simple about posting files on a public server. It can be very complicated. For now msh, if you email the songs to me, I'll put them on my server.

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#1103454 - 12/24/05 05:17 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Bob Muir Offline
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I just emailed the links to mr_super-hunky, so he should be editing the first post momentarily. Very nice improv of Stairway and Lake Erie was quite good as well! Good job hunkmeister!

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#1103455 - 12/24/05 06:38 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
geek in the pink Offline
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Wow... I'm impressed with the Stairway file.

Good job!

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#1103456 - 12/24/05 06:47 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Dorrie Offline
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Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 438
Oh my gosh -

I am so impressed Mr. S.H. both songs are very nice indeed. I thought your version of Lake Erie was just very soulful and the improv of Stairway was excellent.

What was your source music (1-finger - NOT) for Erie?

What kind of piano did you use for the recording

I remain an extremely envious newbie

Dorrie

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#1103457 - 12/24/05 06:56 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
AJB Offline
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Registered: 10/01/05
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Loc: Surrey, England
OK Mr Funky Hunky, cool try!

I have played this song (on guitar) live about 300 times as it is requested ove rand over again. I stay quite faithful to the Jimmy Page original, although I usually fool around in the lead sections and I dont bother with teh 12 string / 6 string switch.

May I make a suggestion? The song is based on an A minor pentatonic scale and for its impact it depends on building up towards a climax as the verses progress.

You play this well and I like the elaboration, but it would have more impact if you simplified it to begin with and then gradually built in both volume and ornamentation, ensuring that you keep that minor feel (steer clear of major chords).

Cool job though, dude!

Kind regards

Adrian
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#1103458 - 12/24/05 07:34 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Monica K. Offline

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Posts: 17786
Loc: Lexington, Kentucky
Okay, EVERYBODY else can hear them, but I still can't! I click on the link, it downloads and takes a couple of minutes to do so, and then when it's through, a screen pops up that says something like "Jukebox 10.1", but then...NOTHING. What am I supposed to do after that? There's nothing obvious on the jukebox screen that pops up for me to click on. (I'm working on a brand new computer, btw, some souped up Dell model of my husband's, the XPS 600, so I would like to think that it has all the latest stuff.)
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#1103459 - 12/24/05 07:37 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
rocky Offline
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Registered: 03/12/05
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Loc: Louisville, KY
Nice job!! I enjoyed them both very much. I haven't attempted Lake Erie Rainfall but am going to, although it will be a long time before I can play it like you. Thanks for sharing!
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#1103460 - 12/24/05 07:40 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Dorrie Offline
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Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 438
Monica,

If you have real player installled, and your firewall protection at medium, it should come onto real player automatically after you click on the link

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#1103461 - 12/24/05 07:58 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
AJB Offline
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Registered: 10/01/05
Posts: 3655
Loc: Surrey, England
Monica - get a Mac and say goodbye to all this nonsense. Music files and suchlike just play - as if by magic.

Perhaps Santa will bring you one if you have been a good girl and used all those pedals on your lovely piano!

Best wishes

Adrian
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#1103462 - 12/24/05 08:21 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Loc: Arizona.
Dorie;

I really am reading extremelly simple music. The exact score I am playing on "lake erie rainfall" can be found on jim brickman's "easy piano pieces".

I am usually only playing one finger in the right hand, and I'm not even reading the left; only using the fakebook type note or chord givin.

This method enables me to play super-simple pieces very nice.

These songs were recorded on a Roland KR-7 digital.

AJB;
Thanks for the advice, and I agree with you. Normally I take a lot longer to get "into" to chords and meat of the song; however, I did'nt want to take up to much of everyones time so I shortened the song considerably. If I can ever figure out how to do this on my own, I will post the full version.

Monica, I wish I could help you but I could'nt even figure out how to get this music posted to begin with! I really hope you can somehow get it to work as I want you to hear Lake erie rainfall.

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#1103463 - 12/24/05 08:27 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Bob Muir Offline
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Loc: Lakewood, WA, USA
Monica, right-click on the link and select "Save Target as" or some such. Then save it to a place where you know it will be like My Documents or the desktop or My Music. Then, when it's finished downloading, either double-click on the file that you downloaded, or add it to the playlist in Windows Media Player.

I suspect that a program you installed is conflicting with the browser or another music program.

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#1103464 - 12/24/05 08:55 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Loc: Arizona.
Isnt Bob cool !

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#1103465 - 12/24/05 09:28 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
Monica K. Offline

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Loc: Lexington, Kentucky
He sure is! Thanks, Bob! Your instructions worked like a charm.

And so are YOU, super-hunky (cool, that is). Your Lake Erie Rainfall is amazing. And I say this because I've SEEN the easy piano sheet music of Lake Erie Rainfall, and it is nothing at all like--and not nearly as beautiful as-- your version.

I think it's very impressive that you are able to improvise like that. Makes me jealous.
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#1103466 - 12/24/05 10:06 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
gilad Offline
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hey mr s. that was really impressive, good work!

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#1103467 - 12/24/05 11:55 PM Re: (IT WORKS!) (Stairway to heaven, Lake erie rainfall
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Well it's nearly 1:00am and everyone is asleep but me. I'm listening to these recordings. They are great!! I am mostly content to play classical as written but there must be so much freedom in improvising! Do you write out your improvised chords and play them the same each time. I find that when I play around with fake books I never play the chords the same way twice but I'm not skilled enough to have it sound even close to good.... Your recordings are inspiring! Thanks for sharing!
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