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#1116924 - 04/18/07 09:28 AM Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Many of you have purchased the Alfred book: "Chopin: An Introduction to His Piano Works."

The waltz on page 48, Op 69, #1 is so heart-breakingly beautiful. Chopin dedicated it to Marie Wodzinska, whom most believe was Chopin true and only love. His 'engagement' to her was broken because her parents did not think Chopin's prospects of providing for their daughter was very good, considering his state of health and his desire to become a successful composer.

Although she seemed upset at first, she soon got over her attraction to Chopin and eventually married a wealthy man.

However, Chopin did not "get over" his love for this young woman and to say he was deeply affected would be an understatement. He pined for her for many, many years. After his death, his sister found the letters he had saved from Maria, carefully tied together with a ribbon. And on top he wrote (in Polish): "My Sorrow"

So, I am just putting a feeler out here to see if anyone is interested in learning this waltz. If you have the CD, you know how lovely it is. It is rated as a 7. Not exactly easy in a few parts, but the melody line is relatively simple.

Just respond to this topic and we'll see how many people we get who would like to learn this waltz as a study group.

I can offer some "technical" assistance because I bought the book by Eleanor Bailie, which gives some very explicit details on how to play the piece and some practical advice on fingering, phrasing, dynamics, timing, etc.

And, of course, there will be no time limit. We'll just progress as individuals and share our insights as we go along.

Thanks,
Kathleen
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#1116925 - 04/18/07 02:46 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
HouseHead78 Offline
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Hi Kathleen,

I'm interested in this, as I am any Chopin piece!

However, I'm looking at it now it looks pretty tough. I'm just finishing learning the A-Minor Waltz, and that has taken about 1.5 months.

If I can play the A-Minor waltz (posth) pretty well do you think I can handle this?

When I finish working for the day I'll noodle on it at the piano.

My concern is that I'm tackling too few pieces and playing a bit above my level rather than building repertoire more firmly in my grasp. I'm also working on the Mozart K545 first movement (just started).

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#1116926 - 04/18/07 06:29 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Hi HH:

If you are just finishing the A minor, it would probably be wise if you wait a bit. The A minor is graded at a 4 (although I thought a few measures were difficult), and the Ab is a 7. That's a big difference.

Congrats that you learned the A minor in just 1.5 months. It took me much longer.

Noddle around with it when you have a chance, but I'm thinking it will take me about 2-3 months to get it to flow smoothly. I have two other newer pieces I'm learning and then trying to keep up with those I've already learned hoping that I won't forget them.

Sometimes I get the feeling I losing ground.

Regards,
Kathleen
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#1116927 - 04/18/07 06:54 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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I just looked at the sheet music for this waltz... I would absolutely love to learn it. I hear it on the radio all the time, and I think it's embedded in my subconscious now. It's also short enough that I should be able to commit to it. If you have enough interest for a group, then count me in! (If not, I'll learn it anyway ;\) .)

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#1116928 - 04/18/07 07:15 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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 Quote:
Originally posted by loveschopintoomuch:
(although I thought a few measures were difficult) [/b]
My guess is you'd be referencing the triplet, quintuplet run? I finally nailed that a few days ago. Best. Feeling. Ever. \:D

I'll take a look at this Ab waltz and let you know what I think.

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#1116929 - 04/18/07 07:48 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Hi Pianolina:

If it's just the two of us (and maybe HH) that will be just fine. How many consititutes a group anyhow??

HH: Yes, you are right about that run. I tried for a long time doing the thumb under thing. It didn't work. My teacher clued me in on just lifting the fingers off the keys, taking aim and flying upward to the next octave. (They call this the "thumb-over" method. It took me about 2 days of 30 minute sessions and I finally got it. Yes...it was a great feeling.

We'll leave the post up for a while to see if we get any others who are interested. Then, we can begin...what? in about a week?

Kathleen
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#1116930 - 04/18/07 09:27 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
LiszThalberg Offline
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Count me in...

I've just finished 2 major pieces:
Fantasia in D minor - Mozart
Sonata Op. 49 No. 2 Movt. 1

I need a new side project.


How about starting the first of May?


Matt

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#1116931 - 04/18/07 09:39 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
joemoshi Offline
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Although I have a recording of this waltz at thread: http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/32/3727.html#000000
I still have many questions about interpretation of various phrases. So please count me in.
Joe
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#1116932 - 04/18/07 10:26 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Count me in too Kathleen. I have the Palmer Intro and I've learned the Waltz in A minor. This looks like an excellent next step. It doesn't look too difficult although that "13let" as the alternate to the "8thlet" in the 12th measure looks like it might be a showstopper. I've also participated in The Entertainer Study Group and enjoyed it a lot. I've actually learned to play the thing as a result.

Doesn't everyone alternate between Chopin and Joplin? :rolleyes:
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#1116933 - 04/18/07 10:29 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Oh, and I just got my Zoom today so I'll be able to post recordings. I've opened it up but haven't tried it yet. Will probably wait until Saturday to figure it out. Looks a little scary at this point but everyone says it's easy...
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#1116934 - 04/18/07 10:38 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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This sounds like fun!!, and what a wonderful piece to study. Count me in, my progress may be a bit slower though, as I've got two of Chopin's nocturnes on the agenda also, but whats the rush right!

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#1116935 - 04/19/07 03:08 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Count me in, too. I will not be "totally devoted" since I have some other projects. But I guess you are used to me beeing a little off and on, Kathleen ;\)

(I have played through the Waltz in Ab, but never put some decent work into it)

Ragnhild
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#1116936 - 04/19/07 10:22 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Wow!!! Welcome...all of you. I never expected to get such a great response so quickly, or (for that matter) at all.

We certainly have enough to form a great group. I like Matt's idea of "officially" starting on May 1st.


Joe: You play it beautifully! We will be relying on both you and Ragnhild (hi, dear) to get us over some rough spots, like fingering.

Joe: I noticed that in the 11th measure you play the "ossia" differently (more notes) than the version I have. You are using the Fontana version, I believe.

Starting Over: I am been seriously thinking about buying that Zoom Mic. Please let us know how you like it. I certainly have to do something to improve the quality of my recording.

I will be using the edition posted in the Alfred book. This version is autographed by Chopin, himself, and is faithfully reproduced from the "real" one, which is now in the National Library at Warsaw. A distincly different autograph at the Paris Conservatoire is considered to be a less refined version. The post-humous edition of Jules Fontana presents a 3rd version, not substantiated by any known autograph. (However, the majority of publishers have adopted the Fontana version.) Why??

I would like to add that Fontana's version is full of embellishments that are NOT in the original version. He adds more notes in several measures.

I don't know about you, but I would like to learn the "Chopin" waltz, not the "Fontana" one.

I will be happy to send a copy of this version to anyone who needs it. That way we can all be working on the same one.

But if any of you would prefer the Fontana, that's fine. There are enough similarities that we can work with both.

Let me know...by a PM.

I look forward to starting.

Regards,
Kathleen
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#1116937 - 04/20/07 11:29 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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OK, this is such a lovely piece of music that I'm not waiting till May 1 to start. I'm starting now. I've got the first bit memorized now and starting to practice it. I'm playing the alternate Ossia with the 13 notes. (Kathleen, does your version show this alternate? I am using the Alfred book as well but it's probably 15 years old, or more. Obviously, it didn't come with a CD when I bought it. The scores should be the same but you never know...) The alternate Ossia is just a chromatic scale so it's actually not as hard as it looked at first. Getting it all worked in without messing up the timing is going to be a bit of a challenge though.
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#1116938 - 04/20/07 12:25 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Hi Starting Over:

Please do start right now! I have been practicing it for the last few days, putting in fingering, etc.

Yes, my version does show the Ossia with 13 notes. I will attempt to play it, but as you say, the timing will be the thing.

This really isn't an easy piece at all. Tricky, at best, but worth the trouble.

Good luck. I will be out of town from Thursday through Monday, so that's why I am trying to get a little head start on it. And for all others who want to start early, please do.

When I get back, I will comment on "how to play Chopin's waltzes" in general, from the Bailie book, which I hope will be helpful. Then gradually interject her advice and comments for specific sections. However, she is not using the same version...darn. Well, we'll work around it, someway.

Good luck to all,
Kathleen
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#1116939 - 04/20/07 04:48 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Me too, I could not resist starting on the waltz. I also play the alternate "ossia" with 13 notes - just thought it sounded nicest.
I like the "Chopin" version, I already prefer it from the Fontana. The most surprising difference was the LH in 17 and 24, first I thought it sounded weird, but now it makes sense.
The part from 50 gave meaning in he "Chopin" version - I have always found it unlogical before.
\:\)

Househead78 : I find the posthumus walz in A minor about as difficult as this one, even if it is shorter. If you don't have problems with the Ab key signature you could give this one a try. I am not sure the grades always gives the right picture.

Ragnhild
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#1116940 - 04/20/07 05:58 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Excuse my ignorance but what is Ossia?
Joe
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#1116941 - 04/20/07 06:07 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Ossia is Italian and it just means "or". The version we are referring to has two possible ways of playing measure 11 : A figure with 8 notes or the "ossia" above with 13 notes.

Fontana version has 5 notes + a triplet in the same measure \:\)

Ragnhild
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#1116942 - 04/20/07 08:45 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Now that I know that Ossia means "alternate" I won't refer to that part as the "alternate Ossia" any more. That would translate to "alternate alternate" wouldn't it? Dumb me.
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#1116943 - 04/21/07 01:53 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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wow, it has fingering. so i might be able to do it.

actually, i probably won't.

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#1116944 - 04/21/07 02:37 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Hi Ragnhild: I'm glad \:\) you like the Chopin version. So do I. One reason could be that it's easier. And thanks for the translation of ossia.

Starting Over; You're not the only one who didn't know what ossia meant, but at least you swallowed your pride and asked.

Hi Alyosha: Try the fingering. See if it works for you.

Regards,
Kathleen
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#1116945 - 04/21/07 08:14 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
ange Offline
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Hi Kathleen,

I'm new to this forum, so I have no idea what a study group involves, i.e. what I'm required to do. I'm definitely interested as I love Chopin pieces very much.

I've learned this piece before, but did not put much effort in playing it well or memorizing for that matter. So I feel this study group would be beneficial.

However, I'm also working on other pieces, so probably won't have a lot of time to devote to this one compared to the other members. So, am I still eligible ?

Thanks !

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#1116946 - 04/22/07 08:52 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Ange, I'm not Kathleen, but I am sure you are most welcome in the study group - just post !


BTW - a study group is a nice place to start at the forum !

Ragnhild
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#1116947 - 04/22/07 09:30 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
LiszThalberg Offline
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I don't own the Introduction to Chopin Book. Is it alright that I use the SMA edition? It comes with no ossia.

Matt

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#1116948 - 04/22/07 02:08 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Hi Ange: \:\)

As Ragnhild said...of course you are welcome to join us. Basically, a study group is just people working on the same composition. And as we go along (and everyone works at his/her own speed, so there is no deadline or anything like that), if any have questions or comments they'd like to make, the rest of us try to answer (if we can, depending on our knowledge or experience with the piece, etc.) Sometimes all we can offer is encouragement, etc. And that's all some of us need. ;\)

Since you know the piece but need to practice it again, that's great. Many of us are also working on other music so we understand that your time is limited. No problem.

So...welcome. And, again as Ragnhild said, please pop in often and post anything you would like.

This is certainly not a rule...but some people even record when they are finished and post it for the rest of us to hear. But, no way is there any pressure to do so.

Hi Matt: I don't know what the SMA edition is (forgive my ignorance), but I don't see any reason why you can't use it. If you want a copy of the two ossias, I can PM them to you. Otherwise, you can play what you have.

Great...you were actually thrown out of a hotel lobby! Something we all have to aspire to. \:D

I'll be staying at a hotel next week for a few day. Boy, I hope they have a piano in the lobby.

Kathleen
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#1116949 - 04/22/07 09:12 PM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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I'm thinking about joining. My teacher has been away performing in South Africa for almost a month and returns this week. I was thinking about trying Nocturne No. 2 because I like it so much, but I listened to this one several times today because of this thread and like it too. Which is harder? I'm working on Juin from The Seasons by Tchaicovsky at the moment, but need to work on something new. I'm close to having all the parts of the Tchaicovsky down. Don't know how that "grades" out in comparison. I recently picked up the book Chopin in Paris and have just started it basically - on about page 35. Facinating so far. Well, I'd prefer to work on Scherzo No. 2, but I'm thinking I better try something a little easier. \:\)

I want to find some Chopin that my next door neighbor at my office hasn't played before. She took for 12 years stopping in college I guess and every time I play a recording of a piece for her and say I'm thinking about learning it, she says, oh yes, she knows it and played it in high school Is there a chance she didn't play this one?

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#1116950 - 04/23/07 08:58 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Hi TLuvva: Regarding your neighbor...don't let her intiminate you. Sounds like she is doing the "one-up-manship" thing to me. Who cares what she can play. It's what you can play that matters.

The Scherzo #2 is given a VA grading (Advanced Virtuoso). And it is given a 10 page write-up in the Bailie book. Yikes!!

The nocturne #2 is a 7 and the Ab waltz is a 7.

I read the book Chopin in Paris, and I agree it is quite good. It doesn't take any sides and just tells it as it was. Sulzc also wrote a great book about Pope Paul.

Your neighbor, after taking 15 years of lessons, can probably play most everything. And chances are that she can certainly play the Ab waltz.

So, I guess you have to decide if you are trying to impress her or just be yourself and play what you like.

I hope you choose the latter.

Regards,
Kathleen
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#1116951 - 04/23/07 09:57 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
ange Offline
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Thanks Kathleen ! Will work on the piece and check out the forum as often as I can.

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#1116952 - 04/23/07 11:18 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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No, I'm kidding a little about my neighbor. She has done that to me a couple of times now, but she's now 15 years removed from those lessons and just got a piano and is now thinking of restarting lessons. I'm trying to talk her into it. My teacher has an opening. We're different kinds of players, and she's a great friend.

I guess I have a few more days to listen and decide. You do well to help and encourage the rest of us, Kathleen. Whether, I join or not, you're doing such a nice thing to lead the Chopin Club. Thanks!

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#1116953 - 04/23/07 11:19 AM Re: Study Group for Chopin's Waltz in Ab
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Oh, and yeah, I'm not ready for the Scherzo. But one day!

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