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#1995715 - 12/07/12 12:34 AM
Re: how to get over traumatic memory slip experience
[Re: Entheo]
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You cannot use music for a Rachmaninoff sonata... you kind of need to be looking at your hands... hahaha richter did. you don't have to look at the music the whole time. Yeah. He's Richter. He can do anything.
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#1995746 - 12/07/12 02:53 AM
Re: how to get over traumatic memory slip experience
[Re: BruceD]
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[...]some ultra-urtext transcription [...] "... urtext transcription..."? Isn't that an oxymoron? It was meant as a joke. But what I meant was it might be a transcription that predates the published version. An early pre-published version.
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#1995845 - 12/07/12 08:43 AM
Re: how to get over traumatic memory slip experience
[Re: BruceD]
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I recently played a Mozart sonata by memory, and half way through the last movement my mind went blank, so I improvised all of the recapitulation, and no one noticed That may say as much about your audience's level of musical knowledge and sophistication as it does about your improvisatory skills. Not only knowledge and sophistication, but the amount of attention they were paying, too. Back in the days when I did live performances, it always annoyed me a little when people would dismiss errors I made by saying that "nobody even noticed". Well, if they didn't notice, were they really listening? And if they weren't, what would be the point of playing?
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#1995860 - 12/07/12 09:14 AM
Re: how to get over traumatic memory slip experience
[Re: Pogorelich.]
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Just look at it as a sign that you're a human being.  In a way, that's what makes live performance exciting: you never know what's going to happen. You're not a machine. My only comparable experience on the piano is when I try to play for my in-laws at their house after a holiday dinner. I ALWAYS totally bomb, whether I use music or not, even though the next day I can play the piece note perfect at home. It's probably a combination of their not-great piano, a too-low bench, and having imbibed a couple of glasses of wine in the preceding couple of hours.
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#1996306 - 12/08/12 09:10 AM
Re: how to get over traumatic memory slip experience
[Re: wr]
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Back in the days when I did live performances, it always annoyed me a little when people would dismiss errors I made by saying that "nobody even noticed". Well, if they didn't notice, were they really listening? And if they weren't, what would be the point of playing? but therein lies the rub IMHO; we put all of this undue pressure on ourselves believing that the audience knows (or should know) every score by heart, when in fact, unless it's a jury or an audition, they are simply there to enjoy the music (and themselves). what's noticeable to audiences in general is not the lack of note perfect but the big collapses -- no music degree required to recognize those. so if you're skilled enough to play thru the lapse or you use the sheet music as an aid, there's no shame in either of them, as long as the spirit of the music shines thru. IMHO.
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#1996327 - 12/08/12 09:39 AM
Re: how to get over traumatic memory slip experience
[Re: Pogorelich.]
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People listen to music in different ways. It doesn't mean they're not paying attention. Also, sometimes they do notice, but they just don't care, because they realise that live performances are rarely perfect.
Edited by debrucey (12/08/12 09:40 AM)
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#1996334 - 12/08/12 10:03 AM
Re: how to get over traumatic memory slip experience
[Re: BruceD]
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it was on a recent piano course with various good pianists 2 of them concert pianists. And are Estonia pianos widely regarded as good pianos?
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