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#2286310 - 06/05/14 07:53 PM Re: Kawai ES7 user thread [Re: Wouter D'hoye]
ColoRodney Offline
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Registered: 02/07/14
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Originally Posted By: Wouter D'hoye
Hi,

i'm considering the purchase of a Bose L1 compact system to use as monitor and maybe some day for stage perfomance. Now the bose system is mono and I read here an there that misxing a stero signal to a mono signal can have undesirable side effects. Now the ES7 appears to also have a mono output. How well would that work with a mono system like a Bose L1? Anubody hare who has experiance in this regards or can give me good advice?


I use a Bose L1 system (the full one, with one bass module, not the compact) with a Kawai ES4, and I find it works great. When I was looking, I was able to set up my keyboard between the Bose Compact and the full L1 at a Guitar Center, and toggle back and forth... and I really liked the sound of the larger one better, though the compact system was quite decent. You're going to hear stereo from the piano's speakers no matter what. I use one 1/4 cord from the L/Mono output to go to the Bose, and the Kawai combines the two channels for stereo. You can also run stereo to the Bose, and it will combine them there; but the Bose is a mono source (which is really more appropriate for any venue larger than a small room anyway).

The larger ones can often be found used for around $1000. And you have four channels (two line level, two with mic preamps), so I've often run vocals and a fiddle through the same unit as well for St Pat's Day gigs and square dances.

Good luck!

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#2288892 - 06/12/14 12:05 PM Re: Kawai ES7 user thread [Re: mabraman]
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On page 26, under effects, the ES7 manual states "Pressing the ^ and v VALUE buttons simultaneously alternates the speed of the rotary simulation between "Slow" and "Fast" effect modes."

I found that doing that changes the sound from whatever you're playing to Concert Grand.

After experimenting, it turns out that to alternate the rotary effect speed, you need to press both ^ and v MENU buttons, not VALUE buttons.

Anyway, if anyone else runs into this problem, that may be the solution.

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#2289076 - 06/12/14 08:39 PM Re: Kawai ES7 user thread [Re: ColoRodney]
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
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Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Originally Posted By: ColoRodney
On page 26, under effects, the ES7 manual states "Pressing the ^ and v VALUE buttons simultaneously alternates the speed of the rotary simulation between "Slow" and "Fast" effect modes."

I found that doing that changes the sound from whatever you're playing to Concert Grand.

After experimenting, it turns out that to alternate the rotary effect speed, you need to press both ^ and v MENU buttons, not VALUE buttons.

Anyway, if anyone else runs into this problem, that may be the solution.


Thank you ColoRodney.

This was an error in the original version of the ES7 owner's manual, but fixed in subsequent versions.



The latest version of the ES7 owner's manual PDF can be downloaded from the Kawai Japan support pages below:

http://www.kawai.co.jp/worldwide/support/manuals.html

Kind regards,
James
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

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#2289352 - 06/13/14 02:00 PM Re: Kawai ES7 user thread [Re: mabraman]
ColoRodney Offline
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Oh! Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, when I searched for "Kawai ES7 Manual" on Google, it took me to this manual, which has the same mistake:

http://www.kawaius.com/main_links/digital/ES7/OM/ES7_EN_20120308.pdf

Maybe the revised manual should be put on the kawaius.com site as well as the main Japan site.

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#2289491 - 06/13/14 11:25 PM Re: Kawai ES7 user thread [Re: ColoRodney]
Kawai James Offline
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Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Originally Posted By: ColoRodney
Maybe the revised manual should be put on the kawaius.com site as well as the main Japan site.


I agree. I'll send another request to the folks at Kawai America on Monday.

Cheers,
James
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

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#2338912 - 10/18/14 09:38 PM New ES7 User [Re: mabraman]
Kubla Offline
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Registered: 04/26/09
Posts: 40
Loc: Southeastern Massachusetts
It seems this thread has been quiet for a little while, so I just wanted to say 'Hello' as a new ES7 user. I've only had mine for a week, so 'we' are still getting acquainted. smile

Six years ago (at age 55) I decided it was time to pursue my dream of learning the piano. I have never regretted taking the plunge. I started with a Kimball console, then upgraded to a Yamaha U3 last year. However, occasionally I practice early in the morning or later in the evening...so a DP comes in handy.

I look forward to reading the earlier posts and learning how to get the most out of the ES7.
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#2338946 - 10/19/14 02:45 AM Re: New ES7 User [Re: Kubla]
peterws Offline
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Registered: 07/21/12
Posts: 3697
Loc: Northern England.
Originally Posted By: Kubla
It seems this thread has been quiet for a little while, so I just wanted to say 'Hello' as a new ES7 user. I've only had mine for a week, so 'we' are still getting acquainted. smile

Six years ago (at age 55) I decided it was time to pursue my dream of learning the piano. I have never regretted taking the plunge. I started with a Kimball console, then upgraded to a Yamaha U3 last year. However, occasionally I practice early in the morning or later in the evening...so a DP comes in handy.

I look forward to reading the earlier posts and learning how to get the most out of the ES7.


The comparison between your es7 and the ysg 635 would be interesting. I use Yamaha's Dgx650 (had the 630) and the es7 was a contender at the time. But in the shop, you never really get to hear these at their best.. . Also the DP and acoustic comparison! Maybe well get to hear you over at Adult Beginners. . .Have fun!
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#2338993 - 10/19/14 07:11 AM Re: New ES7 User [Re: peterws]
Kubla Offline
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Registered: 04/26/09
Posts: 40
Loc: Southeastern Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: peterws
The comparison between your es7 and the ysg 635 would be interesting. I use Yamaha's Dgx650 (had the 630) and the es7 was a contender at the time. But in the shop, you never really get to hear these at their best.. . Also the DP and acoustic comparison! Maybe well get to hear you over at Adult Beginners. . .Have fun!


Peterws, the first differences were more realistic key weight, the ivory touch of the Kawai, and speaker strength. I'm just beginning to tweak the piano tones, but even out of the box I was impressed with the ES7. The YPG 635 has plenty of capabilities of its own and more voices than the Kawai, but I didn't find many of them to be useful to me. It was a good choice for a first DP and has served me well-but as my skills developed, I wanted my DP practice to more closely resemble the sessions on my acoustic.

As for the U3, it was a tough decision between this particular piano and a reconditioned Kawai professional upright. I would have been happy with either. This U3 just happened to have the mellow tone that I favor.
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Yamaha U3
Yamaha YPG 635
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