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#2007570 - 01/01/13 05:01 PM Newbie - More Realistic Grand Piano on Privia
bobcrane Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
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I picked up the Casio Privia PX-350 for my wife for Christmas. By far the best keyboard this house has ever seen.

The grand piano has that "Close but not quite" sound to us, especially in the mids.

If you own a Privia, can you tell me what adjustments you've made to give it a more realistic sound/feel?


Thanks,

Bob

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#2007575 - 01/01/13 05:10 PM Re: Newbie - More Realistic Grand Piano on Privia [Re: bobcrane]
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Registered: 06/17/10
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Loc: Reading, UK
I'm not sure if this fits exactly with the 350, but with the 330 I generally get the best results by turning the Reverb to 4 (Stadium) and Chorus to 1 (Light Chorus)

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#2007576 - 01/01/13 05:15 PM Re: Newbie - More Realistic Grand Piano on Privia [Re: bobcrane]
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I don't quite have a Privia. Do have a Casio.
I hooked mine to my computer. Running IvoryII on the computer. It's still not quite...
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#2007578 - 01/01/13 05:22 PM Re: Newbie - More Realistic Grand Piano on Privia [Re: bobcrane]
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OK, well I also run Hauptwerk using the Casio.

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#2007579 - 01/01/13 05:23 PM Re: Newbie - More Realistic Grand Piano on Privia [Re: bobcrane]
Charles Cohen Offline
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Registered: 12/26/12
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I'm a new PX-350 owner, so for what it's worth:

1. The built-in loudspeakers aren't very good. Either:

. . use _good_ headphones (Sennheiser HD280, AKG K240, or something like that) [the single greatest improvement you can make], or

. . play through a _good_ home-stereo system (10" woofers or larger), or

. . .get a free-standing keyboard amp or "studio monitor" loudspeakers. There's a recent thread on this topic -- search for "Rokit". [Piano fundamental frequencies go down to 27 Hz, and it takes a bloody good loudspeaker to get that low.]

2. The PX-150/PX-350 built-in tonal variations are limited. You can pick the "Grand Piano" tone you like best, and adjust "Brightness" (high-frequency boost, I think) and "Reverb" (simulated room size) through the "Function" menu. "Chorus" -- IMHO -- gives an artificial sound, and should be turned off unless you want its effect.

3. If you're unhappy with the above, the next step is to replace Casio's built-in piano tones (and damper effects) with different ones. There are several "software synths" available, that run on PC or Mac's, loaded with gigabytes of carefully-recorded samples from great pianos. You can run those from the Casio's MIDI output (for your playing), and feed them back into the Casio's own loudspeakers via "Line Input". Try "Vintage D" for a start, it seems popular here. There are others.

I'm sorry if this seems daunting. A piano is a complicated beast, and simulating one "as perfectly as possible" is not cheap or simple.

But simulating a piano well enough so it's fun to play, and pleasant to listen to -- that's within reasonable budgets.

. charles

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#2007595 - 01/01/13 05:55 PM Re: Newbie - More Realistic Grand Piano on Privia [Re: Charles Cohen]
Possum SP280Krome Offline
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Hello, I have had mine for 2 months- to be honest I haven't even read the manual yet!! (Was too busy debating about keeping the Yamaha P105 which went back)

I have though read the manual for my PX130- and I have always liked a more mellow piano.

One idea might be to experiment with the brilliance settings.
I will let you know-

I also love the HD280's-
some of the pianos are limited by the speaker power.
In fact, I am convinced my PX130 is louder!

However, I will be running the PX350 through Rokit KRK 5 monitors. In my opinion they sound great for melodic piano sounds, some people though prefer having a subwoofer and/or the KRK 6 (6 inch vs. 5 inch)

I think the sweet spot for me will be running the mellow piano through louder amplificaiton.

However, I do think the speakers are better than the other pianos I have owned tone wise, just think the power isn't as great as it could be on the more mellow sounds.
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#2008196 - 01/02/13 08:26 PM Re: Newbie - More Realistic Grand Piano on Privia [Re: bobcrane]
bobcrane Offline
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Registered: 01/01/13
Posts: 2
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to connect this to the home stereo. My wife has set it to lighter action and prefers that setting. I've given her these other suggestions.

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