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Originally Posted by Piano.Brazil
Don't miss trying a Mason and Hamlin BB.
I have done a wide trip and played at least 30 pianos 2 years ago, and finally decided for the BB I now have at home.
Everyone has it's own taste for piano's tone and colour, but as long as money is a concern, I think you should broaden your search.
Best luck, and please let we know what's your final decision (with pictures!)
And a BB costs around half the price of a Steinway B.

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Find some Hamburg Bs to try. They will make you decide much more easily. Cheers.


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If the difference in price is still the the same, then I will bite the bullet and get the Hamburg Steinway.


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The OP now has a NY D rebuild and a Steingraeber 232.


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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
The OP now has a NY D rebuild and a Steingraeber 232.

Sounds like a nice compromise! thumb


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Originally Posted by Vuong
If the difference in price is still the the same, then I will bite the bullet and get the Hamburg Steinway.
Are you deserting the "Sauter Club " ?
We both know that he should buy a Sauter grand ? Right ..?

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I think for some people "complex" is just another word for "muddy". As far as "colors' are concerned my tech said something like "all good pianos change color as the dynamic is increased". It may very well be true that Steinways do this to a greater degree than most other top tier pianos.

Although I phrased the above as statements, I'm interested in other people's opinions on them.

Several years ago I suggested here on the PW forums that someone make a CD recording of the various "classic" grand piano sounds, i.e. the "Steinway" sound, the Yamaha "bright" sound, the so-called "European" sound etc.

Playing the same samples of music, with the pianos mic'd identically.

This would be for people who do not have access to all the well-known brands to get a grasp of what people are talking about.

Because using words to describe nuances of piano sound/tone is like the old saying about "dancing about architecture"...i.e dancing does not explain architecture, and words regarding piano sound characteristics have no common exact definition understood or accepted by all, so they do not clarify much...words such as "color" or "complex" or "woody".

For that suggestion, I was hooted down by some expert, and the suggestion ignored.

I still think such a CD would be helpful, and I would certainly want one.

Is this not what that guy in YouTube was/is doing? ThePianoforever or something like that? I've stumbled across his videos over the years and seem to recall he had a video series very much like what you describe, where he played the same pieces, with the same mic setup, on various world class pianos.

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Ha! Ha!. I still like my Sauter. But it looks like the OP wanted either Steinway or Shigeru-Kawai. It is hard for me to convince him to buy a Sauter grand, the Omega 220 which surely is can measure up to the Hamburg Steinway C.


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