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Re: Chopin preludes ranked musica71 #2542560 05/23/16 03:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 9,328 New York City P Polyphonist 9000 Post Club Member
Polyphonist 9000 Post Club Member P Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 9,328 New York City	Originally Posted by musica71 What about Op.45 c# min.? That one is so bad it's not even on the list. Regards, Polyphonist

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Polyphonist #2542575 05/23/16 04:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 24,600 New York Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 24,600 New York	We're neglecting a lot of other great composers. I think next we should do Bach. What is Bach's worst piece? Just to get the ball rolling, I nominate the B minor Mass.

Re: Chopin preludes ranked JoelW #2542584 05/23/16 04:57 PM
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OP JoelW 6000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 6,177	Bach's worst piece is the one he forgot to write.

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Mark_C #2542589 05/23/16 05:12 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 13,955 Phoenix, Arizona Carey Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Carey Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 13,955 Phoenix, Arizona	Originally Posted by Mark_C We're neglecting a lot of other great composers. I think next we should do Bach. What is Bach's worst piece? Just to get the ball rolling, I nominate the B minor Mass. I agree - that Mass is a complete Mess - but, even so, learning and performing it as a chorister was one of the most amazing musical experiences I ever had. Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640 Kawai K-500 Upright Kawai CA-65 Digital Korg SP-100 Stage Piano YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Polyphonist #2542592 05/23/16 05:14 PM
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Carey Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 13,955 Phoenix, Arizona	Originally Posted by Polyphonist Originally Posted by musica71 What about Op.45 c# min.? That one is so bad it's not even on the list. Actually, it was so good that Chopin gave it a separate opus number. Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640 Kawai K-500 Upright Kawai CA-65 Digital Korg SP-100 Stage Piano YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Carey #2542604 05/23/16 05:20 PM
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Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 24,600 New York	Originally Posted by Carey Actually, it was so good that Chopin gave it a separate opus number. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. The same year he also gave a separate opus number to a big spider.

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Mark_C #2542606 05/23/16 05:23 PM
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Polyphonist 9000 Post Club Member P Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 9,328 New York City	Originally Posted by Mark_C Originally Posted by Carey Actually, it was so good that Chopin gave it a separate opus number. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. The same year he also gave a separate opus number to a big spider. I didn't know Chopin published arachnids. Regards, Polyphonist

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Mark_C #2542610 05/23/16 05:27 PM
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Carey Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 13,955 Phoenix, Arizona	Originally Posted by Mark_C Originally Posted by Carey Actually, it was so good that Chopin gave it a separate opus number. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. The same year he also gave a separate opus number to a big spider. And even Chopin himself thought it was pretty dreadful (the music - not the spider). Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640 Kawai K-500 Upright Kawai CA-65 Digital Korg SP-100 Stage Piano YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Carey #2542623 05/23/16 06:13 PM
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Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 24,600 New York	Originally Posted by Carey And even Chopin himself thought it was pretty dreadful.... Proves what he knew! It's a neat little piece.

Re: Chopin preludes ranked JoelW #2542625 05/23/16 06:15 PM
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OP JoelW 6000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 6,177	I actually don't know it.

Re: Chopin preludes ranked JoelW #2542626 05/23/16 06:22 PM
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Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 24,600 New York	Originally Posted by JoelW I actually don't know it. Here you go:

Re: Chopin preludes ranked Carey #2542638 05/23/16 07:05 PM
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SiFi 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 2,656 Washington, DC	Originally Posted by Carey Originally Posted by Mark_C We're neglecting a lot of other great composers. I think next we should do Bach. What is Bach's worst piece? Just to get the ball rolling, I nominate the B minor Mass. I agree - that Mass is a complete Mess - but, even so, learning and performing it as a chorister was one of the most amazing musical experiences I ever had. I don't want to fall into what seems to me like a well-laid trap, but I just have to ask, are you guys serious? You're talking about the large work for 5-part choir and orchestra completed in 1749 that's a setting of the Mass and that was composed by a chap named Johann Sebastian Bach who lived from 1685 to 1750? That B minor Mass? SRF

Re: Chopin preludes ranked SiFi #2542641 05/23/16 07:13 PM
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Mark_C Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 24,600 New York	No.

Re: Chopin preludes ranked JoelW #2542688 05/23/16 09:31 PM
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OP JoelW 6000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 6,177	I thought you were talking about the Allegro de concert. My mistake.

Re: Chopin preludes ranked JoelW #2542694 05/23/16 10:01 PM
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musica71 500 Post Club Member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 529 Bend, Or.	Well I for one have spent years on Prelude Op. 45...fooey to you! Seriously..I love it! Musica 71

Re: Chopin preludes ranked SiFi #2542705 05/23/16 11:15 PM
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Carey Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 13,955 Phoenix, Arizona	Originally Posted by SiFi Originally Posted by Carey Originally Posted by Mark_C We're neglecting a lot of other great composers. I think next we should do Bach. What is Bach's worst piece? Just to get the ball rolling, I nominate the B minor Mass. I agree - that Mass is a complete Mess - but, even so, learning and performing it as a chorister was one of the most amazing musical experiences I ever had. I don't want to fall into what seems to me like a well-laid trap, but I just have to ask, are you guys serious? You're talking about the large work for 5-part choir and orchestra completed in 1749 that's a setting of the Mass and that was composed by a chap named Johann Sebastian Bach who lived from 1685 to 1750? That B minor Mass? Of course we're NOT serious. And yes - learning and performing the Mass was an amazing experience. Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640 Kawai K-500 Upright Kawai CA-65 Digital Korg SP-100 Stage Piano YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo

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