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#2597884 - 12/25/16 04:40 AM Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster]
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Thanks ivorytux!

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#2598501 - 12/27/16 06:59 PM Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: ivorytux]
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Originally Posted By ivorytux
* 5:30-6:18 the obvious changes in tone color between adjacent notes. It sounds like the attack is the same for about an octave, then switches for the next octave, and so on, rather than being unique to each note.

* 6:38-6:42 what sounds like velocity switching, which again should not be and issue in true physical modeling

Anyone have some thoughts on the above?

I had an opportunity to compare the spectral pan views of note progressions from RP401R (probably the same as in F120/130/140) and from HP603 (posted here by Lophiomys). As far as I understood it, two findings were obvious and interesting:
1) Evident sample stretching of HP603 in groups of about 4 notes. No visually noticeable stretching in RP401.
2) Much more rich pan patterns in RP401 as compared to HP603.

Given the fully modelled sound of the HP series, observation No 2 is to be expected, while observation No 1 is very astonishing. If I was to make a decision based on the spectral pan views I had been shown, I would definitely chose the sampled RP401 (or its current incarnation F140) over the modelled HP603.

Edited by semiactive (12/27/16 07:02 PM)

#2599560 - 12/31/16 07:39 AM Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: slobajudge]
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Originally Posted By slobajudge
Originally Posted By MacMacMac
My concern with DPBSD is that it's not very useful.

The tests and charts and graphs mean little by themselves. But given an explanation, they all point to the same thing: mediocre sound performance.

That conclusion could more easily be reached by simply putting fingers on the keys.

Yes, there are differences in the sounds of the various pianos. But the ears tell the story much better than the data.

Sorry Mac, don`t judge too hard, point on this forum is talking about pianos. I agree, ears tell the story, but one day some story and another day other story. So if we measure only by the ears we can shut down this forum completely. Personally, I find this topic interesting in the beginning, but later I was lost, length of topic is too much for me and some conclusions I already have.

DPBSD is not likely to be helpful for a piano artist.
DPBSD is fairly helpful resource in addition to other reviews for those who are fairly new to piano, having almost no or little experience with the instrument.
Especially this is the case if learning at least partly self-educated way. (In case there is a piano teacher going to teach like a dozen of hours a week or more, it is of course better to ask the teacher to help with choosing the right digital piano).
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